In an powerful and in-depth conversation between Pastor Greg Locke and Alex Jones on Infowars, the two discussed their differing viewpoints on the biblical importance of the nation of Israel.
Locke points out the prophetic purpose of Israel, and how God has not abandoned the nation, but rather has still chosen it even though the Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah. Instead, he points out that the Jewish people will someday be awakened to the truth of Christ as their Savior, something to look we are to look ahead toward.
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“Right now, the Bible says blindness in part has happened to Israel,” Locke points out. “So, we can be as mad as we want to…but it opened the way for us to believe. And so, there will come a time the Bible says in Romans chapter 11, all Israel as a nation, shall be saved.”
Jones points out that some within Judaism have said some very derogatory statements about Christianity, to which Locke further highlights that just as those of us who are not Jewish must come to Christ with repentance, so too it is for the Jews.
“Individually, Jesus is not a way to heaven. He’s the only way to heaven,” says Locke. “But what we have to understand is although the individual Jews have to be saved the same way we do, there will come a time that nationally the covenant will be fulfilled. The fullness of the Gentiles will come in…and in that moment the Bible says that the scales will be removed from the eye of the Jewish people. They will look upon Him whom they have pierced and a nation shall be born in a day.”
He continues, “From a covenant standpoint, they are under the grace of God as a nation. Israel as a nation will be saved. As individuals, they still have to respond to the gospel the same way we responded to the gospel. That’s the purpose of the whole book of Hebrews.”
Despite their differing worldviews and theological frameworks, the conversation between Pastor Locke and Jones served as a bold and necessary moment of clarity in a time of growing confusion about Israel’s place in prophecy and world affairs. While Jones raised concerns and skepticism, Locke remained anchored in Scripture.
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It was a powerful moment to see a pastor unafraid to proclaim hard truths on a controversial stage. In a world where many shy away from defending Israel’s prophetic role, Locke made it unmistakably clear: God’s covenant with Israel still stands.
Viewers can find the entire interview on Alex Jones’ Rumble, X and other media channels.
Abby Trivett is content development editor for Charisma Media.
