California Governor Gavin Newsom (D) interviewed Charlie Kirk on his podcast to discuss the Democratic Party’s failure in the 2024 election. Among the issues covered was the inclusion of transgender athletes in women’s sports.
“Would you do something like that? Would you say, ‘No men in female sports?” Kirk asked.
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“I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said, appearing to shift from his party’s stance on trans-athlete inclusion. “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.”
“There’s also humility and grace,” Newsom said, stating that transgender individuals are “more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. The way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well.”
Will Governor Gavin Newsom EVER say “No Men in Women’s Sports?”
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) March 6, 2025
I asked him. pic.twitter.com/xVlJSag0Bq
At another moment in the discussion, Newsom asked Kirk to give the Democratic Party “advice” on how to be successful moving forward.
Kirk said the party has no “activist spark. You guys are posting these cringe videos on social media.“
“What are the videos? What are the ones that are most cringy?” Newsom asked, to which Kirk said, “I don’t know, this harmonious thing of, like, 22 senators all saying the same thing. Go ahead. Go do more of that.”
“What do you do? Seriously, Charlie Kirk, give us some advice,” Newsom said.
Kirk stated that Democrats need to get “better ideas.”
In a promo video for the new podcast, called, “This Is Gavin Newsom,” the governor said, “This is going to be anything but the ordinary ‘politician’ podcast. I’m going to be talking to people directly that I disagree with, as well as people I look up to. But more important than anything else, I’ll be talking directly with you, the listener.”
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This article originally appeared on American Faith, and is reposted with permission.
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