In a powerful and dynamic discussion, Jonathan Cahn joined Roseanne Barr to explore how biblical prophecies are unfolding in modern-day America. From the Clintons representing Ahab and Jezebel to Donald Trump’s rise as a modern-day Jehu, the two examined how current leaders are acting as avatars for ancient entities, shaping both the spiritual and political trajectory of the nation. Their conversation wove history, prophecy and cultural commentary into a compelling portrait of America’s present moment.
“Jehu is the mystery of Donald Trump,” Cahn observes, leaning into the biblical parallel. “Jehu’s agenda was to go to the capital city and drain the swamp,” he explained, highlighting how Trump’s rise mirrors an ancient prophetic pattern of judgment, cleansing and political upheaval.
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“It’s the total Bible manifesting,” Cahn continues, pointing to the downfall of Jezebel and the rise of Jehu as a symbolic framework for contemporary events.
Cahn also compared King Jehoram’s weak and indecisive reign to the leadership challenges faced by Joe Biden, noting how each struggled with national crises, from border security to internal corruption. He pointed out that even subtle patterns in Scripture often align with today’s political narratives.
Turning to Kamala Harris, Cahn said, “Kamala Harris was like the political heir,” drawing a line from Hillary Clinton to Harris as a continuation of opposition against Trump in 2024. “One of the issues of Kamala Harris has been the blood of children,” he added, referencing her stance on abortion and highlighting the moral and spiritual implications of political decisions. He also drew a connection between Harris’ lineage and the Indian goddess Kamala, linking it to Vishnu, known for being lethargic—a spiritual metaphor he parallels with Biden’s often-tired public persona.
“It’s a fight of principalities,” Barr observed, reflecting on the unseen spiritual battle she believes underlies political events.
The discussion took a darker turn as Cahn described how the website Jezebel allegedly paid witches to curse Charlie Kirk shortly before his death. He noted that the town “Orem,” where Kirk died, literally translates to dragon or serpent, while Kirk’s name means church. Cahn drew a chilling parallel to the ancient Jezebel, who “hunted down righteous people and killed them,” emphasizing that spiritual forces are active in modern events.
The two also discussed the upcoming release of The Dragon’s Prophecy, a powerful new movie by Dinesh D’Souza hitting theaters October 6 and October 8. The film tackles themes of moral decay, cultural warfare against Israel, and the prophetic destiny of nations—issues both Cahn and Barr see as central to understanding current global dynamics.
Their conversation then shifted to the Temple Mount and recent events echoing historical patterns. “October 7 was a strike back,” Cahn explained, referencing a significant attack that coincided with a Jewish holiday. He stressed that the timing was no coincidence, framing it as part of a divine schedule woven into the prophetic calendar.
“It’s about building the Temple…this war is over prophecy,” Cahn said, connecting political and military events to a larger spiritual struggle centered on God’s plans and promises.
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Barr reinforced the spiritual dimension of the discussion, noting that the disputes were not merely over territory or politics. “It’s not about land…It’s about God,” Barr said, highlighting how faith and divine purpose are at the heart of unfolding global events.
Together, Roseanne Barr and Jonathan Cahn paint a vivid picture of how biblical prophecy continues to unfold in America today. From political leaders reflecting ancient archetypes to spiritual battles shaping the nation’s destiny, their conversation reminds readers that current events are more than politics—they are a reflection of God’s unfolding plan.
Abby Trivett is a writer and editor for Charisma Media and has a passion for sharing the gospel through the written word. She holds two degrees from Regent University, a B.A. in Communication with a concentration in Journalism and a Master of Arts in Journalism. She is the author of the upcoming book, The Power of Suddenly: Discover How God Can Change Everything in a Moment.
